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Has there been any work done on this issue? The tracks still skip occasionally and it really makes it difficult to send links to people knowing that it's not reliable.

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Food for thought: Pandora's Music Genome system is proprietary but you might be able to reverse engineer some of it based on what we know. Page 7 of this slide has some of the tags that are embedded in some of the tracks.

Pandora hires people with music theory and musicology backgrounds to tag the tracks manually (a little surprising considering how goofy some of them are) but I think that these tasks could be built into a blockchain protocol as potential rewards for keeping the tags fairly clean. It would also remove the burden of self-tagging done by musicians -- which, at least in my experience, tend to be more of a chore than anything else.

I think that music genres (Pop, Rock, Classical etc.) should probably be broken down in a generic and neutral way for ease of maintenance -- and possibly even restricting each track to one per genre at first to reduce the noise and confusion that exists right now. Best not get involved in categorization battles here. But tagging should be done in a decentralized way, imo.

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@im I'm hoping this thread will be the main source of discussion for this topic -- it's a huge undertaking but I think the project would benefit from a clean categorization scheme, even if it's not perfect. The only useful data is clean data, after all. 🙂

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@shamino - that'll come with time -- I don't think it's a good use of Musicoin's time to get into that stuff since that's really a problem that the exchanges should be dealing with, imo.

Looking forward to the day where everyone and their mom would be able to create their own token with a click of a button and be able to cash it out to fiat easily and reliably. You're going to see so many crazy projects that it'll make the internet fun all over again.

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@neon-insect Yep, Kudos on the nothing to lose part.

Things aren't going to be perfect but this is project still has the best shot at transforming the industry, imo.

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I've noticed this too. It may just be because the community is growing fast and the system is starting to get stressed.

Good problem to have?

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@neon-insect the worst he could say is no. No harm in trying, imo.

Although I'm not so sure if people like McAfee or Branson would really understand Musicoin's vision. They're not exactly the most pragmatic of folks out there.

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Most music sites rely on mob-rule as its default (and that's shown not to work so great) so I think this proposal is in the right direction. I think that this is already in place but I think that at the very least people should be a registered user on the site before their vote counts for anything. (1 user, 1 vote.)

But I'm more concerned about the fact that it's simply a lot of work for both the users and musicians to have to make informed choices about what "quality" means for something like music. I studied musicology for a few years and one thing that becomes obvious is that people generally have a lot of trouble talking about music in general because the language we use to describe musical concepts tend to be inadequate.

I think in the long run there will have to be a class of users that primarily focuses on curation as their main role, similar to how critics, reviewers, and tastemakers operate in traditional spaces. Musicians just want to make music and fans just want to listen -- I think you'd get better results if you give some weight to people who're really excited to do this stuff, imo. And it'll eliminate a lot of the conflict of interest issues that may lead to abuses of the system, which has always been a problem in the space as well.

Semi-related to my other project here about revamping the categorization and tagging schemes of Musicoin. Join the discussion if you have some ideas!

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Hey all -- this was pinned in Musicoin's discord site for a while but I'm moving this project over here since this forum seems like the best place to have these discussions from here on out.

Basically the gist of this project is that I'm interested in having discussions about how Musicoin's "Search for Tracks" function can be improved so that it provides a better experience for both musicians and listeners. As most people here probably already know, music discovery systems on most platforms right now aren't very good because it tends to reward incumbents unfairly (usually in collusion between major labels + the platform), are non-transparent, not to mention very disorganized in general. As a result, I don't think anyone really trusts music-tech platforms to really be arbiters for what they consider to be "quality content" since they have to more or less have to do that discovery work on their own. Does it have to be that way, though?

I wrote this PRD (product requirement document) as a start but after mulling it over a bit I realized this project was much bigger than originally thought, so I tried to focus the scope to just the Category and Tagging systems for now. On a very basic level, how do we organize our tracks on here by genre, artist type, geography, use-cases in a very broad sense? If you make it too broad you end up losing interesting content due to over-centralization, if you make it too specific (e.g. dark ambient dub-step with reggae influences made by your 2nd cousins) you get the same due to increased noise and confusion by the listeners. It's a difficult balance to achieve but I do think that if we put some real thought into it we could probably come up with something better than exists anywhere else right now.

My tendency is to favor simplicity and clarity over everything else (for transparency and reduced maintenance loads) so that will be my agenda from my end. 🙂

I'm a long-time musician here -- I have classical training and a few years experience studying musicology at the Ph.D level but my style is improvised ambient music with a cross-genre approach. I'll make edits and revisions to the document as time goes on (very much WIP) so let me know what you think!

Music Discovery System

Take the chart above with a grain of salt, btw. Just something I whipped up real quick.

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Here's my profile but like I said, it seems to happen more or less at random so I can't get any more specific than that.

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